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America Has No Means to Recover from a Depression

Published 12/06/08 Dustin Ensinger - Print Article
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Speaking in front of members of Congress on Tuesday, economist Peter Morici, a professor at the University of Maryland, said the job loss experienced in November "was much worse than was expected ... The threat of a widespread depression is now real and present."

Many economic observers have justifiably stated that the U.S. is in the midst of the greatest recession facing the nation since the Great Depression. On Monday, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally acknowledged what most of Americans have known for some time: that the U.S. is officially in a deep and painful recession. Few, if any, however, will dare to call the current downturn a Depression. Actually, the department responsible for categorizing our economic condition, NEBR, refuses to use the term, although most Americans, judging by what they see and what is happening to them, realize we are truly entering a depression.

"Just as the NBER does not define the term depression or identify depressions, there is no formal NBER definition or dating of the Great Depression," the bureau's website says.

It seems that some “experts” are finally starting to recognize the perilous situation that this country faces.

Chrysler vice chairman, Jim Press, told reporters after testifying on Capitol Hill that inaction to save the auto industry could trigger a full-blown Depression.

"We're on the brink with the U.S. auto manufacturing industry," Press said. "If we have a catastrophic failure of one of these car companies, in this tender environment for the economy, it's a huge blow. It could trigger a [worse] depression."

Nobel-Prize winning economist Paul Krugman believes that, while the U.S. may not technically be in a Depression, we have entered a state of “depression economics.”

Unfortunately, during the Great Depression we had the capacity to innovate, manufacture and otherwise create wealth that could drag us out of the hole we were in. Today, we no longer have that capability. We have forfeited that ability through disastrous trade policies that have shipped the majority of America’s manufacturing prowess across the border and overseas. Without the capability to manufacture and create wealth, the U.S. will never truly recover.

Today we are maintaining our living standards only with imports & through the good graces of our creditors who loan us money. How can our creditors have faith in our credit worthiness when we can only pay them if we can borrow money from someone else to pay them.



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guest says "Productivity is the Key" on 12/17/08
Productivity is the Key

The article says: “Unfortunately, during the Great Depression we had the capacity to innovate, manufacture and otherwise create wealth that could drag us out of the hole we were in. Today, we no longer have that capability.”

But that is not quite true. Here is why. After the great depression, we embarked on a manufacturing automation the likes of which the world has never seen. We were the inventors of advanced automation. During 50s and 60s, we optimized assembly lines and used pneumatic controls to run heavy industries. Towards late 70s, we used electronic controllers and in 80s, we used computer controls – all the while staying about 10 years ahead of everyone else. In 90s, we embarked on Business Automation and did pretty well. The next technology should have arrived in 1997 to maintain our usual 10 year lead. Unfortunately there was no visionary leader to take us there and we lost 10 years and 40 Trillion Dollars in productivity. That is definitely hard to catch up.

However, the good news is that our competitors are still using the 80s and 90s technology and there is no sign that they have invented the next steps, which is the silo-breaker technology. In the meantime, because we are behind technology, we sold our trade policy and created massive front companies who buy products from overseas in the name of productivity. Of course everyone knows - you outsource good paying jobs, which creates unemployment and underemployment that begets foreclosures that begets economic crisis.

There is still time to change that by starting with adjustments in trade policy, unemployment issues, and home foreclosure. That is just band-aids. But the real growth is the next level Automation Technology that can produce products cheaper than what the Chinese and Koreans can make and yet provide high wages. We still have low energy cost (Nuclear, Hydro and soon to be Wind, Solar etc.) and hence our products can be cheaper. The Nobel prized Economic Advisors to the President would not know this because they simply did not study Automation Engineering of which Human Brain is a part that nature made.

I call this Silo-breaker technology for the lack of a better word and it is based on Artificial Intelligence Framework. Even the Air Force is heading that way, but not there yet. I have devoted a lifetime in this technology. It is like moving from Simian Society to Human Civilization. Think about that for a moment. If you are interested and ready to implement such ideas send me an email at rjena at kmci dot net.

guest says "Tell the homeless and jobless this isn't a depression..." on 12/08/08
Only 61% of men age 15 to 65 are employed. My husband gave up looking for work after 4 months. We burned through our savings, and now receive food aid. The KICKER is people call us "better off" because we own everything, our home, our car, our land. But I can't go tot he doctor without begging for a payment plan. I can't buy medicine, with out saving all month and sometimes two months when I get ill. Forget going to the Hospital! I'm 5 months pregnant and face delivering at home with medical complications! That's just our lack of health care!

I suppose that is my main complaint. I do worry how I will pay my bills in future months, like electricity, water, phone, etc... for my business. My business is doing awful lately. If I could make $400 more a month, I would be alright. I could save some back in case business slowed to a crawl like currently.

guest says "solutions" on 12/08/08
yes we do have a way out...everyone has two hands attached at the wrists. Learn to use 'em

That is all.

freethinker

guest says "Poor America ?" on 12/08/08
Good advice was given to you by allied nations that were (yes were) friends of your country not to begin a war to Irak, how did you treated them ? With haughty comtempt. Whole world was telling you stopping polluting the planet. Did you even hear ? Numerous warnings came through numerous paths that you needed to reform your economy instead building a giant casino that profited first to the richest against the poorest and finally profited to a small community of mega-riches against ... the rest of the population including the middle class. That was communism to your ears ! Is there anything to add ?

A former european supporter of the U.S.A.

guest says "We are in a recession." on 12/07/08
I do not think we are in a depression - yet. We are in a very deep recession though. This article masks the facts by being too over the top. To say that "most Americans" realize what is going on cannot be true. We need to focus on what is really happening and find a way out of this mess. Over exaggerating the facts only makes people feel safe, they are then blinded to what is really happening when they see blogs like this and say "well, at least it isn't THAT bad!".

Our next president is not looking too good, avoiding the free trade mess that got us where we are now, just giving more and more hand outs. Where is all this money coming from? How is going to pay it back? If I were Obama, I would be crying myself to sleep every night.

guest says "Can't demand stimulus their way out of this one..." on 12/06/08
Despite all of the public spending by the Roosevelt New Dealers, it wasn't until the advent of WWII and the subsequent wartime demand for goods and services that the massive unemployment of the Great Depression was erased. With WWII came a huge demand that forced the captains of industry to REHIRE those who were laid off when demand slacked during the 1930s economic contraction. Fast forward to America 2008, where we already have two wars ongoing and massive public spending in addition to federal bailouts in the hundreds of billions of dollars and yet unemployment continues to rise. Why??? The answer is that we have ceased to be a country that produces DOMESTICALLY, consequently employment is not linked to market demand either domestically or globally. Market demand will be met now by the offshore production facilities of so called "American" and foreign companies. True some foreign competitors have set up manufacturing facilities within America, like Toyota for example, however these foreign production facilities within America are few and far between and can scarcely absorb millions of outsourced and displaced Americans. Will Toyota rehire the laid off UAW workers??? Doubtful. And therein is the dilemma...they can't stimulate market demand to alleviate massive American unemployment, when the jobs long ago left our shores for more profitable pastures like China!